"You know, I think an interesting construct that General Pace uses is, 'We're not winning, we're not losing.' There's been some very positive developments. And you take a step back and look at

"You know, I think an interesting construct that General Pace uses is, 'We're not winning, we're not losing.' There's been some very positive developments. And you take a step back and look at progress in Iraq, you say, well, it's amazing -- constitutional democracy in the heart of the Middle East, which is a remarkable development in itself."
President Bush
On the war in Iraq.
"The whole purpose is to go out, listen to the commanders, talk to the Iraqis, and see what I can learn."
Robert Gates
Secretary of Defense, on his visit to Iraq.